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GCEC Virtual Connections Webinar Series: Ethics in Entrepreneurship Education - Shared screen with speaker view
Brad Burke
01:23:41
HOUSTON TEXAS
David
01:23:42
Nottingham :)
Kyle Jensen
01:23:42
New Haven, Connecticut!
Eamon Curtin
01:23:45
Cork, Ireland
Arnold Chen
01:23:46
West Lafayette, IN
Brenda Rios Brombacher
01:23:47
Good morning everyone!! I’m from Houston, TX
Ryan Sharp
01:23:47
Davis, California
Dan Olszewski
01:23:47
UW-Madison in in the virtual room
Nik Rokop
01:23:47
The great city of Chicago!!
Kristin Burton
01:23:48
Chicago, IL!!
nora cata
01:23:48
San Francisco, CA
lisa getzler
01:23:48
Lehigh University, Bethlehem PA
Stephen Douglass
01:23:49
DC
Carter Crockett
01:23:49
Kigali, Rwanda here
Derek Lidow
01:23:50
Princeton, NJ
Susan Giesecke
01:23:51
UC Berkeley is here
Craig Talmage - Hobart & William Smith Colleges
01:23:51
Geneva (Finger Lakes), New York
Carey Toane
01:23:51
Toronto Canada
Kate Moody
01:23:52
Buffalo, NY
Shorouq Almallah
01:23:53
Hi from Grand Rapids, MI
Rachel Davis
01:23:53
Coventry, UK
Marc Tower
01:23:53
Good morning/afternoon to everyone from Stillwater, OK
Andrew Nelson
01:23:56
Eugene, OR
Matt Nash
01:23:57
Durham, North Carolina!
Paul
01:23:57
Exeter, UK here
Erik Anderson
01:23:59
North Dakota
Matthew Spielmann
01:24:00
Univ of Rochester, Rochester, NY!
Mike Malloy
01:24:01
Washington, DC
Ashwin Mehta
01:24:01
Massachusetts
Jessica Weldon
01:24:03
St. Louis, Missouri (WashU)
David Choi, Entrepreneurship
01:24:04
Los Angeles
Ari Ginsberg
01:24:06
Suffern, New York
Lidia Alexa
01:24:06
Iasi, Romania
Gabriela Chacon
01:24:07
Phoenix, Arizona at Arizona State University
Dave Chapman
01:24:07
London, England
Jason Huber
01:24:08
Penn State University, State College, PA
Mary Lynn Fattig Fernau
01:24:09
Rice University, Houston
matapo01
01:24:09
Mary Tapolsky from University of Louisville, Louisville, KY
allisonr
01:24:10
Corner Brook, Newfoundland, Canada
Thomas Eisenmann
01:24:10
Harvard Business School, Boston
Jeff Reid
01:24:10
Welcome everyone! Apologies for those who had trouble logging in. - from Arlington, Virginia
Wally Meyer
01:24:12
University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS
Ryan Shiba
01:24:13
Stanford & STVP with Tom!
DHWELSH
01:24:14
Greensboro NC
ksinger@gmail.com
01:24:14
Berkeley Ca.
Alex Settles
01:24:15
Hi from Gainesville, Florida!
Kerri Smith
01:24:16
Houston, Texas
Mellie Price
01:24:20
University of Texas at Austin
Charles Matthews, PhD
01:24:20
On the Ohio River
Michelle Helmer
01:24:20
Greetings from the University of Florida in Gainesville, FL!
Brian Ellerman [Arizona FORGE]
01:24:21
Tucson, AZ at Arizona FORGE (UA)
Josh Hsueh
01:24:22
St. Gallen, Switzerland
John MacRitchie
01:24:26
Toronto, Canada. Ryerson University
Valeri Werpetinski
01:24:28
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
MEGHAN PLATE
01:24:29
Hi from Rochester, NY!
Liz Kisenwether
01:24:49
Hi from Penn State Happy Valley LaunchBox!
Bruce Leech
01:24:50
Greetings from Torch Lake Michigan!
Matthew Smilor
01:25:41
Hey y'all from TCU in Fort Worth, TX
Katherine Hemphill
01:25:47
Hello from Boston! Katie Hemphill from Northeastern University here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-hemphill-87ab2147/
Suzanne Bergmeister
01:26:01
Hi from Louisville, KY!
Milton Sussberg
01:26:09
Chappaqua,NY
Ciprian Comsa / ETTI-TUIASI-Romania
01:26:57
Hello, here I am from the "Gheorghe Asachi" Technical University of Iasi, Romania!
Sher Gibbs, Ph.D.
01:26:58
Hello from UNC in Colorado!
Ashwin Mehta
01:27:08
Greetings from Jack M Wilson Center for Entrepreneurship www.uml.edu/wilson-center
Wendy Bolger
01:27:36
Greetings all from Baltimore and Loyola University MD
Luis Martinez-Trinity University
01:27:47
San Antonio, TX
Philip Bouchard
01:28:23
Hello all, Philip Bouchard, TrustedPeer Entrepreneurship in San Francisco.
Professor Gurpreet Jagpal
01:28:26
Hi everyone. Greetings from the University of Suffolk, UK.
Jeff Reid
01:28:54
Attendees: we will keep you all muted, but please feel free to post questions & comments in the chat bar. Tom & the panelists will be checking here for your engagement.
Wendy Plant
01:28:56
Hello from Florida State University in Tallahassee, FL!
Metawe Thamagasorn
01:29:12
Hi, do you need a password to join this meeting?
Wendy Plant
01:29:59
It was hard getting into the meeting. I was asked for a password that I didn't have.
Jason Huber
01:30:22
I had an issue joining the call as the zoom link in the Eventbrite reminder asked for one.
Josh Hsueh
01:30:26
@Metawe, the link from the Eventbrite requires password.
Jeff Reid
01:30:35
Apologies to those who had issues logging in.
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
01:30:41
Question: how can students learn the impacts of their ventures in a controlled environment?
Tong Meng
01:31:13
Me, as well. Had to reach out to David Lange for a different link. @Metawe @Jason
Dave Chapman
01:32:47
Jeremy Bentham’s preserved body still sits in a glass case at the heart of UCL’s London Campus…..https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/feb/jeremy-bentham-finds-new-home-ucls-student-centre
Tom Byers
01:34:05
Joe DeSimone from Carbon …
rachel julkowski
01:34:06
Question: what is the role of diversity, equity and inclusion in these efforts around ethics?
Tom Byers
01:34:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiZXiZDwo8A&feature=youtu.be
Melissa Parrillo
01:38:28
please post a link to register for the de&i talk you mentioned
Kyle Jensen
01:38:41
Question: what are the top three quandaries faced by student entrepreneurs have a substantial ethical dimension?
Brad Burke
01:39:23
Tom - At a high level, what are the basic ethical issues that need to be addressed in entrepreneurship? And how do you teach students about addressing those issues?
Nigel Adams
01:39:38
We are all diverse
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
01:40:16
I think the stats show that the majority of tech sector is white male, both in post-secondary and in the workforce in the Western world
Kyle Jensen
01:40:35
+1 Carey, +1 Jon's justice.
Wendy Bolger
01:40:36
Im interested in the ethics around sweat equity, and who in our society is able to work without salary in the short term, or for deferred compensation.
David
01:40:38
Q: Degrowth is becoming popular in critical theory (as an extension to green growth). How does entrepreneurship fit in here, considering growth is so essential to starting up.
Kyle Jensen
01:40:55
I worry that
Gina Betti
01:41:34
Without definitions and an agenda a conversation evolves endlessly
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
01:41:58
The reliance on the stock market and its demands for growth, the investors’ rate of return as the central factor make it difficult to look at other models around sustainability or double or triple bottom lines
ksinger@gmail.com
01:42:30
Who are the role models you are using in your classes as examples of ethical entrepreneurs? Seems like there are just cautionary tales right now.
Anne-Marie Maman
01:42:40
Thank you Laura, for having us take responsibility. We can and must do better.
Singari Seshadri
01:42:55
There was a series of talks earlier this week as part of the launch of Stanford Rebuild including a great one by Professor Sarah Soule from Stanford GSB on the Inequities of COVID-19 and how to bring a DEI lens to all innovation. Recordings are available at rebuildsprint.stanford.edu/getinspired.
Alex Settles
01:43:19
The selection of examples used in entrepreneurship education have ethical implications. How should we handle the unethical behavior of highly successful and famous entrepreneurs? Should we screen examples based on ethical standards? How can we highlight the unethical behavior of common examples of entrepreneurial success?
Ted Zoller
01:43:27
That's right, we have a responsibility as educators to be fierce advocates and champions of diversity in all forms.
Stephen Douglass
01:44:05
What next steps are university-based entrepreneurship educators/practitioners taking in navigating inherent conflicts with institutional interests (e.g. IP rights, economics around tech transfer, etc.)?
Nik Rokop
01:45:11
The top 10 richest Silicon Valley moguls, all of whom are white men, are worth a combined $248.2 billion yet the number of Black women employed by 10 of the valley's largest tech companies is zero, according to a study out of San Jose State University. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/sjsu-study-shows-silicon-valleys-stunning-income-wealth-divide/2314397/
Paul
01:45:27
Entrepreneurship Centres, particularly when provided with external funding, are given targets to create start-ups. How do we ensure (audit/police?) students with business ideas not deemed viable or sustainable, are not encouraged to pursue such goals whilst such risks and odds are against them?
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
01:45:34
We still see these startups who use biased facial recognition systems to “predict criminality” and investors are willing to fund these dangerous platforms
Jeff Reid
01:45:43
Q: How do you manage the tension between our educational mission and the commercial mission/goals of the (student)entrepreneurs we serve?
Carter Crockett
01:45:57
The exciting moral dimension of entrepreneurship: the founder(s) have the rare privilege of shaping the very PURPOSE of their community/company
Nik Rokop
01:46:24
“The fact is that there has never been any single, solid, determined commitment on the part of the vast majority of white Americans to genuine equality for Negroes.” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/24/magazine/reparations-slavery.html?referringSource=articleShare
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
01:46:36
Thanks Singari for the link
ksinger@gmail.com
01:46:55
Can we take a quick survey to see if universities require their students to take an ethics course to graduate?
Paul
01:47:32
Just noticed @Stephen Douglas posed this more eloquently :)
Gina Betti
01:48:13
I like Alex Settles question on screening examples. So, what is the baseline definition of "ethical"? For example, one person may agree Mark Zuckerberg was not ethical in 2016, but others would disagree.
DHWELSH
01:49:02
What is our responsibility as Center or Program Directors to reach out to impact justice?
DHWELSH
01:49:21
What are we doing in this regard? What activities?
Alex Settles
01:49:41
There are many ethical problems with Zuckerberg from founding of Facebook to the present.
David Choi, Entrepreneurship
01:49:55
We need to raise our standard for the types of problems we are solving
Kyle Jensen
01:50:02
Is it wrong to pursue a venture solely for profit?
lisa getzler
01:52:41
Asking for Rationale at every stage and coaching through the 5 whys changes the way student entrepreneurs understand when ethical questions begin to surface. And it’s MUCH earlier than they would ever believe possible. UGs can often have very little experience in thinking outside of their own set of circumstances.
Jeff Reid
01:53:46
Here's a great example - led by Matt Smilor at TCU - of infusing values and entrepreneurship together http://www.neeley.tcu.edu/vandv/
Jeff Reid
01:55:35
At Georgetown all of our business students take a required course on Ethical Values in Business - and in that class there is a required entrepreneurship component. Our Ethics faculty use student startup ideas as "highly relevant" case studies to explore ethical issues.
Gina Betti
01:55:55
We should also include the environment in this conversation. Diversity in the environment is key to this planet's survival.
Dan Olszewski
01:58:12
Entrepreneurship is all about solving problems for customers(people) and that is a very noble goal. Getting rich is a side effect of solving those customer problems and that is why the most successful entrepreneurs focus on that as the goal.
Jeff Reid
01:59:23
Tom you are bringing up a huge point - we have so many adjuncts/mentors/advisors helping our programs - and we have to be very careful to vet them for ethical behavior and proper motivation - they can't be engaging just to find a commercial opportunity.
Paul
02:00:05
@Dan unless it is a social enterprise, then getting rich is not part of the motivation (or shouldn't be) :)
Derek Lidow
02:00:18
Entrepreneurship is NOT about solving problems for customers, it is about making them happy! Making them happy enough to give money in return. That’s where the ethics are hidden. Manipulation grows sales for most companies. There’s even a field, persuasion tech!
ksinger@gmail.com
02:00:34
At UC Berkeley, we are launching a “Responsible Innovation in the Era of AI” next spring. If anyone would like to collaborate on that topic, please DM me.
Alex Settles
02:01:26
The issue is how the profit is created.
Jeff Reid
02:01:31
Here is an interesting series of discussions around the ethical impacts of new technologies. "Should This Exist" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/should-this-exist/id1450215523
ksinger@gmail.com
02:02:09
Profit is a question of morality. Conduct is the force of ethics. We need to separate these concepts.
Nik Rokop
02:03:00
Agreed Ted!
Jeff Reid
02:03:50
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Craig Talmage - Hobart & William Smith Colleges
02:04:19
If you are interested in how ethics is changing in entrepreneurship education scholarship, check out the special issue from Entrepreneurship Education and Pedagogy: https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/eexa/3/3
Liz Kisenwether
02:04:31
What amount of profit is acceptable when wages are inequitable and non-execs (especially hourly workers) are underpaid?
Kyle Jensen
02:04:50
+1 Laura
Dan Olszewski
02:04:58
totally agree with Laura's point. The purpose of the business and capitalism is that goal.
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
02:05:08
Agreed. Profit is usually defined in a narrow scope
Mike Panesis
02:05:34
This year we’re going to spend more time on the system. It’s one thing to talk about the ethics of the individual entrepreneur, and quite another to to tackle a system that is inaccessible to most of the population.
Jeff Reid
02:06:23
Reminder: July 1 is the deadline for proposals for GCEC 2020 https://www.gcecvegas.com/
vishnu
02:06:35
How not to exploit capitalism in order to gain profits - this is the question that I think we need answered.
Nik Rokop
02:06:52
Agreed @Mike! We created the system that allows inequity, we can create one that forbids it. Keep the good about capitalism and get rid of the bad.
Carey Toane, U. Toronto Libraries
02:07:11
I would love to see the creativity and innovation of the minds of young entrepreneurs turned to the task of updating capitalism as a system that serves the few instead of the many
Pai-Ling Yin
02:07:40
Really great ideas, thanks, everyone!
Lisa Tschauner
02:07:55
I have had success challenging students to look at existing ventures or their own ideas and visualizing the “best case” and “worst case” scenarios and then design how they would respond in those situations… this allows us to have those conversations together, to consider all perspectives, and to prepare for what that responsibility looks like. For instance, what if they have a product liability issue or what if they bring on an investor who is found to guilty of tax fraud or what if there is a lawsuit brought by an employee or a partner? Having them visualize the way they might handle this brings in thoe design-thinking skills as well as equipping them to make these decisions in the future when it really counts.
Nik Rokop
02:07:57
Thanks all!
Eamon Curtin - IGNITE
02:08:05
We run an incubation programme for recent graduates. I'd be interested in engaging with anyone on VALUES for youn entrepreneurs - honesty, integrity, humility?
DHWELSH
02:08:05
Thanks all
Derek Lidow
02:08:08
The are entrepreneurs in every type of economic system! There are thousands in N Korea. The USSR saw lots of entrepreneurial successes
Dan Olszewski
02:08:20
Thanks everyone
vishnu
02:08:28
Thanks everyone
Kristin Burton
02:08:30
Thanks everyone!!
Anne-Marie Maman
02:08:41
Great discussion! Thanks.
Matthew Smilor
02:08:41
great discussion. Thank you
Matt Nash
02:08:41
Great discussion. Thanks!
Liz Kisenwether
02:08:44
Thanks all...good thought-starting discussions.
Charles Matthews, PhD
02:08:47
Thanks Everyone! Great discussion!